INFORMS Open Forum

  • 1.  Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 05-31-2023 10:48

    Dionne Aleman, a professor at the University of Toronto and director of the Medical Operations Research Laboratory, wrote an article for INFORMS entitled "Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!". If you've been considering volunteering to be a mentor through our Mentor Match program, but weren't quite sure you had enough experience to be able to offer advice and guidance to a prospective mentee, please take a minute to read Dionne's article. It might make you see just how much you really do have to offer!

    And if you have a good news story about your experience with mentoring (whether as mentor or mentee), please share it here.



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    Jill Capello
    Membership Associate
    INFORMS
    Catonsville MD
    jcapello@informs.org
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  • 2.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-02-2023 10:26

    From first hand experience mentoring is a rewarding opportunity.   Besides giving back, it will get you thinking and involved in great discussions.  Why do we do things certain ways, how to organize what I know.   The discussions with the new view in a friendly manner are fantastic.  One of the favorite questions I got was - how did you find places before navigation systems and google maps.



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    Ken Fordyce
    director analytics without borders
    Arkieva
    Wilmington DE
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  • 3.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-02-2023 12:49

    A cautionary comment is that mentoring (usually) can't be forced. I have been involved in programs that matched students with faculty mentors, which most of the time went nowhere. But telling potential mentees (students in my classes in my case) that you are willing to mentor (in my case, if you are interested in research or graduate school) tends to net students who are interested, motivated and stick with it. And usually the mentoring goes far beyond the original topics.

    Similarly, academic departments often assign senior faculty mentors to junior faculty. While a fine idea, I tell my PhD students who go the academic route that they can and should seek out mentors who make sense for them. Again, real interest in being mentored is a prerequisite for a successful partnership. 

    Barry Nelson
    Walter P Murphy Professor
    Northwestern Univesity



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    Barry Nelson
    Walter P. Murphy Professor
    Northwestern University
    Evanston IL
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  • 4.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-02-2023 13:23

    I agree with @Barry Nelson I am not sure about the degree of mentoring that is being discussed here but what I do know is organic mentoring works, but manufactured mentoring rarely works. 



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    Alberto Aparicio
    Data Analyst
    Charitable Adult Rides & Services, Inc.
    La Mesa CA
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  • 5.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-03-2023 10:40

    I think mentoring is very useful, and assigned mentoring can be valuable in the short term.  But it should allow for the mentee to switch mentors readily when they find someone who is more congenial to them.  Especially when the mentoring can focus on a specific issue or problem, a mentor's advice can be useful, even if you don't wind up taking it.  You get a perspective you wouldn't have gotten. 

    I think the kind of mentoring arrangements WORMS has (or used to have; I have not been to an INFORMS to participate in some years), where they pair up individuals during the session, can be a valuable experience for both parties.  And there are no strings attached. You just share perspectives, and then the mentee gets to make their own decisions.

    I'm not sure long-term mentoring as some industry jobs used to practice it is in the mean as useful.  The probability distribution of outcomes is skewed toward the less useful.  It can produce good political connections in the company, but if the mentor is not connected to the right people for you, it is much less useful.



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    Bruce Hartman
    Professor
    University of St. Francis
    Tucson, AZ United States
    bruce@ahartman.net
    website:http://drbrucehartman.net/brucewebsite/
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  • 6.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-09-2023 14:06

          During my 27 years in industry and 13 years in academia, I've found that the most fruitful mentoring relationships develop organically over time. In my first years in industry (and later my first few years in academia!), I asked tons of questions to different people. This was enormously helpful. And as one of my long-time mentors, Ken Fordyce, posted above, mentoring benefits the mentor as well as the mentee. It's satisfying to help others and learn in the process.

        Someone once told me that, "Mentoring is like dating, except without any sex." Both mentor and mentee get to know each other and over time some relationships last longer than others. Even the short-term mentoring relationships can be successful. The INFORMS mentor-match has worked well for me, and even one "match" resulted in a single 40 minute zoom call in which I think I provided helpful information, though the fellow never reconnected to ask anything else. I always ask mentees to reach out whenever they have issues they want to discuss. Sometimes they do and multi-year relationships develop. Also, when I stumble across information that I think may help a mentee, I will forward it to them, but mostly I count on the mentee to seek me when they want advice. And I seek advice from my mentors when I need it. As an example, it was 1994 when I first asked Ken Fordyce for advice and I asked him again this past week for his view/advice on something, and as usual, his perspective helped. Unlike with dating though, with mentors, it is good to have many of them. Depending on the issue, a particular mentor (or set of mentors) may be best.



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    John Milne
    Clarkson University
    Potsdam, NY
    jmilne@clarkson.edu
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  • 7.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-04-2023 18:06

    I have had mixed experiences with formal mentor programs.  The ones that work are those that have specific goals with material to support the development of the mentee.  It should be structured and if a fit is not working, then that should be addressed.  I also think that we should not confuse contacts, mentors, and sponsors.  Each have their value, and each can move from one type to another.  Specific to mentors, I think the best are those that realize the focus should be on the mentees goals.  



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    Nicholas Ulmer
    Faculty
    Naval Postgraduate School
    Pacific Grove CA
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  • 8.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-09-2023 11:13

    I never heard about INFORMS Coffee with a Member. It sounds like a great idea!

    I mentor a few mentees and sometimes find it hard to come up with topics to discuss, but I have a set of rubrics to encapsulate bodies of knowledge.

    The concept of "bedtime research" is good, but I like to wind down at that time in place of early morning.



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    Andrew Acosta
    Data Scientist
    Milesius Capital Resources LLC
    Chicago IL
    andrew@acm.org
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  • 9.  RE: Mentoring: You Have More to Share than You Know!

    Posted 06-12-2023 10:33

    I've been a mentee in a few programs that have worked out well for me.

    When I was 2 years out from leaving the military to pursue a civilian career, I learned about the year-long American Corporate Partners mentorship program for transitioning military members and immediately signed up. The mentor ACP assigned me met the 2 main criteria I was looking for: 1. someone without prior military experience (I knew I needed practice talking to people without the same background as me) and 2. a woman. Because I knew I needed help but didn't really know what I needed help in, ACP's suggested conversation topics worked great. My mentor made sure I was thinking about things that were important and practicing skills I needed.

    During my last year of Active Duty service, the USCG Womens Leadership Program focused on the book "Athena Rising: How and Why Men Should Mentor Women" and started a 6 month mentorship program that focused on pairing male mentors with female mentees (but also allowed anyone to sign up). I was paired with a male E-9 rescue swimmer who had an incredibly different career path than me. The mentoring program didn't have much guidance on what to talk about, but we figured it out and had some great conversations.

    When I did become a civilian, I started working at a small company. While there were people I could usually ask for advice about specific, technical topics, there were bigger picture career questions I had that would best be answered by someone outside my organization. I also had an INFORMS membership that I wanted to make the most of, so I went on the INFORMS Mentor Match website to find a new mentor, preferably a woman who had some industry experience. Pelin Pekgun was the first person I reached out to, and she accepted. She's answered so many different questions I've had, from handling office conflicts to figuring out career moves to new ways of being involved in INFORMS. We've consistently talked every month or two and continue to do so. It's been about five years.

    In each of these cases, the biggest contributing factors to success have been me as a mentee having a general understanding of what I was signing up for and why and my mentors actively volunteering to mentor someone.



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    Kathryn Walter
    Senior Operations Research Analyst
    Avista Corp
    Spokane WA
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